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    Indian Ocean: East African slaves taken aboard the Dutch HMS
    Daphne from a Arab dhow, 1 November 1868.
    These photographs dated 1868 reveals a very little of the terrible suffering caused to millions of people by the slave trade. This group of severely emaciated boys and young men on the lower deck of a Royal Naval ship apparently have been taken from what was a slave vessel trading illegally off the African coast headed to the Americas. The captain of the Royal Naval ship had instructions not to return the rescued slaves to the place on the coast where they had been put on the slave ship (presumably because they were in danger of being recaptured by traders) but it is not clear from the available documentation what happened to them afterwards.


    The Indian Ocean Slave trade evolved around the Indian Ocean basin. Slaves were taken from mainland East Africa and sold in markets in the Arabian Peninsula and the Persian Gulf. In contrast to the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, the Indian Ocean Slave Trade was much older dating back from at least the second century C.E. until the early twentieth century. For example, the oldest written document from the East Africa Coast, the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea, describes a small trade in slaves around the second century C.E. Notice the physical features of the Arabs
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    Aboard a Slave Ship, 1829



    In 1807 the British Parliament passed a bill prohibiting the slave trade. In January the following year the United States followed suit by outlawing the importation of slaves. The acts did nothing to curtail the trade of slaves within the nation's borders, but did end the overseas commerce in slaves. To enforce these laws, Britain and the United States jointly patrolled the seas off the coast of Africa, stopping suspected slave traders and confiscating the ship when slaves where found. The human cargo was then transported back to Africa.
    Interception at Sea

    Conditions aboard the slave ships were wretched. Men, women and children crammed into every available space, denied adequate room, food or breathing space. The stench was appalling - the atmosphere inhumane to say the least. The Reverend Robert Walsh served aboard one of the ships assigned to intercept the slavers off the African coast. On the morning of May 22, 1829, a suspected slaver was sighted and the naval vessel gave chase. The next day, a favorable wind allowed the interceptor to gain on its quarry and approach close enough to fire two shots across her bow. The slaver heaved to and an armed party from the interceptor scrambled aboard her. We join Reverend Walsh's account as he boards the slave ship:

    "The first object that struck us was an enormous gun, turning on a swivel, on deck - the constant appendage of a pirate; and the next were large kettles for cooking, on the bows - the usual apparatus of a slaver. Our boat was now hoisted out, and I went on board with the officers. When we mounted her decks we found her full of slaves. She was called the Feloz, commanded by Captain Jose' Barbosa, bound to Bahia. She was a very broad-decked ship, with a mainmast, schooner rigged, and behind her foremast was that large, formidable gun, which turned on a broad circle of iron, on deck, and which enabled her to act as a pirate if her slaving speculation failed. She had taken in, on the coast of Africa, 336 males and 226 females, making in all 562, and had been out seventeen days, during which she had thrown overboard 55. The slaves were all inclosed under grated hatchways between decks. The space was so low that they sat between each other's legs and [were] stowed so close together that there was no possibility of their lying down or at all changing their position by night or day. As they belonged to and were shipped on account of different individuals, they were all branded like sheep with the owner's marks of different forms. These were impressed under their breasts or on their arms, and, as the mate informed me with perfect indifference 'burnt with the red-hot iron.' Over the hatchway stood a ferocious-looking fellow with a scourge of many twisted thongs in his hand, who was the slave driver of the ship, and whenever he heard the slightest noise below, he shook it over them and seemed eager to exercise it. I was quite pleased to take this hateful badge out of his hand, and I have kept it ever since as a horrid memorial of reality, should I ever be disposed to forget the scene I witnessed.

    As soon as the poor creatures saw us looking down at them, their dark and melancholy visages brightened up. They perceived some- thing of sympathy and kindness in our looks which they had not been accustomed to, and, feeling instinctively that we were friends, they immediately began to shout and clap their hands. One or two had picked up a few Portuguese words, and cried out, "Viva! Viva!" The women were particularly excited. They all held up their arms, and when we bent down and shook hands with them, they could not contain their delight; they endeavored to scramble up on their knees, stretching up to kiss our hands, and we understood that they knew we were come to liberate them. Some, however, hung down their heads in apparently hopeless dejection; some were greatly emaciated, and some, particularly children, seemed dying.



    But the circumstance which struck us most forcibly was how it was possible for such a number of human beings to exist, packed up and wedged together as tight as they could cram, in low cells three feet high, the greater part of which, except that immediately under the grated hatchways, was shut out from light or air, and this when the thermometer, exposed to the open sky, was standing in the shade, on our deck, at 89'. The space between decks was divided into two compartments 3 feet 3 inches high; the size of one was 16 feet by 18 and of the other 40 by 21; into the first were crammed the women and girls, into the second the men and boys: 226 fellow creatures were thus thrust into one space 288 feet square and 336 into another space 800 feet square, giving to the whole an average Of 23 inches and to each of the women not more than 13 inches. We also found manacles and fetters of different kinds, but it appears that they had all been taken off before we boarded.

    The heat of these horrid places was so great and the odor so offensive that it was quite impossible to enter them, even had there been room. They were measured as above when the slaves had left them. The officers insisted that the poor suffering creatures should be admitted on deck to get air and water. This was opposed by the mate of the slaver, who, from a feeling that they deserved it, declared they would murder them all. The officers, however, persisted, and the poor beings were all turned up together. It is impossible to conceive the effect of this eruption - 517 fellow creatures of all ages and sexes, some children, some adults, some old men and women, all in a state of total nudity, scrambling out together to taste the luxury of a little fresh air and water. They came swarming up like bees from the aperture of a hive till the whole deck was crowded to suffocation front stem to stern, so that it was impossible to imagine where they could all have come from or how they could have been stowed away. On looking into the places where they had been crammed, there were found some children next the sides of the ship, in the places most remote from light and air; they were lying nearly in a torpid state after the rest had turned out. The little creatures seemed indifferent as to life or death, and when they were carried on deck, many of them could not stand.

    After enjoying for a short time the unusual luxury of air, some water was brought; it was then that the extent of their sufferings was exposed in a fearful manner. They all rushed like maniacs towards it. No entreaties or threats or blows could restrain them; they shrieked and struggled and fought with one another for a drop of this precious liquid, as if they grew rabid at the sight of it.

    It was not surprising that they should have endured much sickness and loss of life in their short passage. They had sailed from the coast of Africa on the 7th of May and had been out but seventeen days, and they had thrown overboard no less than fifty-five, who had died of dysentery and other complaints in that space of time, though they had left the coast in good health. Indeed, many of the survivors were seen lying about the decks in the last stage of emaciation and in a state of filth and misery not to be looked at. Even-handed justice had visited the effects of this unholy traffic on the crew who were engaged in it. Eight or nine had died, and at that moment six were in hammocks on board, in different stages of fever. This mortality did not arise from want of medicine. There was a large stock ostentatiously displayed in the cabin, with a manuscript book containing directions as to the quantities; but the only medical man on board to prescribe it was a black, who was as ignorant as his patients.

    While expressing my horror at what I saw and exclaiming against the state of this vessel for conveying human beings, I was informed by my friends, who had passed so long a time on the coast of Africa and visited so many ships, that this was one of the best they had seen. The height sometimes between decks was only eighteen inches, so that the unfortunate beings could not turn round or even on their sides, the elevation being less than the breadth of their shoulders; and here they are usually chained to the decks by the neck and legs. In such a place the sense of misery and suffocation is so great that the Negroes, like the English in the Black Hole at Calcutta, are driven to a frenzy. They had on one occasion taken a slave vessel in the river Bonny; the slaves were stowed in the narrow space between decks and chained together. They heard a horrible din and tumult among them and could not imagine from what cause it proceeded. They opened the hatches and turned them up on deck. They were manacled together in twos and threes. Their horror may be well conceived when they found a number of them in different stages of suffocation; many of them were foaming at the mouth and in the last agonies-many were dead. A living man was sometimes dragged up, and his companion was a dead body; sometimes of the three attached to the same chain, one was dying and another dead. The tumult they had heard was the frenzy of those suffocating wretches in the last stage of fury and desperation, struggling to extricate themselves. When they were all dragged up, nineteen were irrecoverably dead. Many destroyed one another in the hopes of procuring room to breathe; men strangled those next them, and women drove nails into each other's brains. Many unfortunate creatures on other occasions took the first opportunity of leaping overboard and getting rid, in this way, of an intolerable life."



    References:
    Walsh, Robert, Notices of Brazil in 1828 and 1829 (1831).


    "Aboard a Slave Ship, 1829," EyeWitness to History, www.eyewitnesstohistory.com (2000)


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    facinating that they have so old pics

    the slave trade.....no words can explain it

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    Well the slave trade can be explained. Rational thinking on behalf of the British, Dutch, Arab, Spanish, French economists.

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    They all look so sad that`s a depressing pic kinda .... there`s kids there



    but we can never forget history str8!


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    wow, I just posted this somewhere else.

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    powerful thread. I always wondered how they were able to capture so many though

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    Quote Originally Posted by uRbaN
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    Indian Ocean: East African slaves taken aboard the Dutch HMS
    Daphne from a Arab dhow, 1 November 1868.
    These photographs dated 1868 reveals a very little of the terrible suffering caused to millions of people by the slave trade. This group of severely emaciated boys and young men on the lower deck of a Royal Naval ship apparently have been taken from what was a slave vessel trading illegally off the African coast headed to the Americas. The captain of the Royal Naval ship had instructions not to return the rescued slaves to the place on the coast where they had been put on the slave ship (presumably because they were in danger of being recaptured by traders) but it is not clear from the available documentation what happened to them afterwards.


    The Indian Ocean Slave trade evolved around the Indian Ocean basin. Slaves were taken from mainland East Africa and sold in markets in the Arabian Peninsula and the Persian Gulf. In contrast to the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, the Indian Ocean Slave Trade was much older dating back from at least the second century C.E. until the early twentieth century. For example, the oldest written document from the East Africa Coast, the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea, describes a small trade in slaves around the second century C.E. Notice the physical features of the Arabs
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    Quote Originally Posted by uRbaN
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    The Indian Ocean Slave trade evolved around the Indian Ocean basin. Slaves were taken from mainland East Africa and sold in markets in the Arabian Peninsula and the Persian Gulf. In contrast to the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, the Indian Ocean Slave Trade was much older dating back from at least the second century C.E. until the early twentieth century. For example, the oldest written document from the East Africa Coast, the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea, describes a small trade in slaves around the second century C.E. Notice the physical features of the Arabs
    Praise be to Allah......

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    Quote Originally Posted by JesusDread
    Praise be to Allah......

    yeah didint u know

    i read many old arabic books..........................where they wrote bout
    slave women from.............the african countries......................
    they described each woman in details...

    thats why north african people are so mixed..arab with african
    and in south american we have latin with african

    in europe we have african with white..................




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    jeezasdread, your meagre "under"standing plagues you. "Allah" has nothing to do with the enslavement of Africans. Free up offa 5 meaningless words. Same could be said about "jesus" but that would make you sort of a dolt, nah true? Considering that one of the first slave ships to navigate the "slave coast" was the SS Jesus..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen_Diyah
    yeah didint u know

    i read many old arabic books..........................where they wrote bout
    slave women from.............the african countries......................
    they described each woman in details...

    thats why north african people are so mixed..arab with african
    and in south american we have latin with african

    in europe we have african with white..................



    the african and white mixed - started on RAPES of young black girls and women by white men

    back on topic... I always read books and saw a few photos... just wanted to share the imagery of slavery ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph P
    Considering the first slave ships to navigate the "slave coast" was the SS Jesus..

    the "Good Ship Jesus," piloted by Sir John Hawkins, brought ~300 enslaved Africans from what-is-nowadays-called-Sierra-Leone to what-is-nowadays-called-the-Dominican-Republic in 1562....



    but don't give JesusDread too much credit...you didn't see the thread where he talked in depth about the variety of beastiality porn available on the internet and the websites that provide it?......

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    Quote Originally Posted by uRbaN
    the african and white mixed - started on RAPES of young black girls and women by white men

    back on topic... I always read books and saw a few photos... just wanted to share the imagery of slavery ....

    Yes, it started like that in America...
    But have you read how it started in Africa and the middleeast?

    Arabs and Africans lived togheter in the same cities...so people made new lifes with eachother

    JUS LOOK AT NORTH AFRICA

    Libya, Mali, Ithiopia.......my gosh jus look at selassie...he doesnt look like the people that praise him at all

    not all people read books and newspapers not all people know about other countries, places, religions and people..

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    urban..

    I've seen a book @ Barnes and Nobles a few years back filled with pics of lynchings..have you seen or heard of it? I'm going to do a search for it..

    and diyah..i propose you read "2000 seasons" by Ayi Kwei Armah....brush up on your arabic slavery history and stop the romanticizing of blatant rapes by big nosed arab men...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph P
    I've seen a book @ Barnes and Nobles a few years back filled with pics of lynchings..have you seen or heard of it? I'm going to do a search for it..

    and diyah..i propose you read "2000 seasons" by Ayi Kwei Armah....brush up on your arabic slavery history and stop the romanticizing of blatant rapes by big nosed arab men...

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    i wont read that shit anyway
    history...not my favourite subject
    95% of the things that happend in the past are fucked up, all the massmurders, wars n slavery

    im tired of all the shit

    mankind so stupid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen_Diyah
    Yes, it started like that in America...
    But have you read how it started in Africa and the middleeast?

    Arabs and Africans lived togheter in the same cities...so people made new lifes with eachother

    JUS LOOK AT NORTH AFRICA

    Libya, Mali, Ithiopia.......my gosh jus look at selassie...he doesnt look like the people that praise him at all

    not all people read books and newspapers not all people know about other countries, places, religions and people..
    that's wonderful... good.. I hope people educate themselves more...to realize that humans defined as blacks have suffered severely compared to any other and still do to this day across the world - based on the color of their skin and origins...


    This thread was meant to show the faces and suffering of human beings - BLACKS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uRbaN
    that's wonderful... good.. I hope people educate themselves more...to realize that humans defined as blacks have suffered severely compared to any other and still do to this day across the world - based on the color of their skin and origins...


    This thread was meant to show the faces and suffering of human beings - BLACKS.

    Yes, what you wrote was/is true. Black people have suffered the most based on their skin colour and origins, and thats fuckedup

    we as people can make a change but i dont see much happening

    not many black people think they way you think in this mtv society that we live in today....the kids need this knowledge to grow up with....let them know first.

    I mean..there gotta be something we can do all togheter....black and white

    not to make history repeat itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by raggamuffin
    the "Good Ship Jesus," piloted by Sir John Hawkins, brought ~300 enslaved Africans from what-is-nowadays-called-Sierra-Leone to what-is-nowadays-called-the-Dominican-Republic in 1562....



    but don't give JesusDread too much credit...you didn't see the thread where he talked in depth about the variety of beastiality porn available on the internet and the websites that provide it?......
    Hey pussy, substantiate yu lies or GSYM. Yu nat even worth mash up people thread ova enyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph P
    I've seen a book @ Barnes and Nobles a few years back filled with pics of lynchings..have you seen or heard of it? I'm going to do a search for it..
    There are a few books of that sort... W.F. Brundage wrote a book on Lynching - it was impressive...

    DHRULE#811 - If you make them think negatively of you, they will never know the truth. It is like leading the enemy to drink wine - wine made of their own blood

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    Absoulutely Incredible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen_Diyah
    i wont read that shit anyway
    history...not my favourite subject
    95% of the things that happend in the past are fucked up, all the massmurders, wars n slavery

    im tired of all the shit

    mankind so stupid
    u shun knowledge..again , not my issue

    SSJesusDread, learn yuh history

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph P
    jeezasdread, your meagre "under"standing plagues you. "Allah" has nothing to do with the enslavement of Africans. Free up offa 5 meaningless words. Same could be said about "jesus" but that would make you sort of a dolt, nah true? Considering that one of the first slave ships to navigate the "slave coast" was the SS Jesus..

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    Once a fassy, always a fassy eeh, false rasta?

    Under Arab slavery men were castrated and the women were used as sex-machines, so that over generations the offspring of the enslaved women merged into general Arab society, albeit into an inferior caste-type class of sub-species. Today we have slave descendants across the Sahara, such as the Harantines in Mauritania, to the ebony blacks in Arabia.

    This is because the slaves were so many that the slavers could not ethnically dilute them into café au lait. Castration and male culling is practised.

    Mekuria Bulcha estimates that over 17 million Africans were sold to the Middle East and Asia between the sixth and twentieth centuries. In Bulcha's view the distinction between western and Islamic slavery is largely figurative. Both arrangements involved violence and cruelty as well as the devaluation of humanity.

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    well let's see..i never claimed to be rasta...don't pay attention to cyber titles given by mods..lol

    post some of the brutish practices that christians went to Africa with...post it nah SSJesusDread.lolol

    I find it ridiculous that you seem to be justifying arab slavery over the christians from whom you took your namesake..OL!

    Negroes who find chattel slavery appealing needs a head check

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    Quote Originally Posted by uRbaN

    The Indian Ocean Slave trade evolved around the Indian Ocean basin. Slaves were taken from mainland East Africa and sold in markets in the Arabian Peninsula and the Persian Gulf. In contrast to the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, the Indian Ocean Slave Trade was much older dating back from at least the second century C.E. until the early twentieth century. For example, the oldest written document from the East Africa Coast, the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea, describes a small trade in slaves around the second century C.E. Notice the physical features of the Arabs
    always deal w/ The Roots.
    Who's the father of civilization and humanity? Who made Arabs?
    Did Arabs get darker, or did they get lighter?
    Does Arab not mean African? Is Arab a race, nation, culture or religion? Was slavery an extension of war between 1 race, and multiple cultures?

    I don't worship Arabs, or their Islam, but I think I'd rather have been sent to Arabia than Amerikka.
    1. Shorter trip.
    2. closer to home
    3. I'm not too sure about the Arab slavery, but I don't know if they forced them to change their langauage and culture as much. Anyone know about slave revolts in the Arab world?

    Jeezas Dread- where are you getting your info from? Honkeys?

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    In evaluating the African slave trade, there was another "Middle Passage" often neglected by most scholars—the Arab slave trade. It is often forgotten that the Arab slave trade in East Africa and the slave trade from North Africa into Inner West Africa was protracted and ruthless. Sometimes the Arabs from the north who were Moslem enslaved Africans in the south who were also Moslems, thereby violating one of the most basic customs of their faith—that no Moslem should enslave another Moslem. There is a small library of books on this subject that most scholars have chosen not to read, thereby making the Arab slave trade the best kept secret in history—although it is not a secret at all. Of the many books and documents that I have read on the subject, Slavery in the Arab World by Murray Gordon, 1987, and The African Slave Trade From the 15th to the 19th Century, in The General History of Africa: Studies and Documents 2, UNESCO,1979. I find the most informative the UNESCO book, especially the chapter, "The Slave Trade in the Indian Ocean."

    Like most strangers to Africa the Arabs entered Africa, allegedly, as friends. The Africans who are curious and uncritical about new people, new religions and cultures treated the Arabs as well as they treated other strangers. The Arabs were not always kind in their spread of Islam in Africa. In fact, they were usually ruthless and often disrespectful of societies and cultures that existed in Africa before they arrived. In North Africa the two wars of Arab conquest that came in the seventh and tenth centuries, the first being religious and military, broke the back of Roman influence in the area and replaced the corrupt Roman regimes. At first the Arabs were welcomed in North Africa as a replacement for the ruthless Romans. When the North Africans and Berbers discovered that the Arabs were also ruthless, although in a different way, it was too late because the Arabs now had the military upper hand.

    Another aspect of Arab conquest, generally neglected, is the spread of Arab influence in East Africa through accommodation and sexual conquest. Many times the Arabs moved down the coast of East Africa rendering the service of the much needed East African coastal trade. Soon after this, Arabs began to marry or cohabit with African women. This in turn resulted in a generation of African-looking Arabs. These Arab half-breeds facilitated the spread of the trade inland at a time when the Arab face was held in suspicion in this part of Africa. In the fierce competition in the West African slave trade, the Portuguese were driven from West Africa around to East Africa. The Arab slave trade, moving from north to east met the Portuguese slave trade moving up from the south. These two slave trades complemented each other and culminated with the establishment of one of the largest slave trading forts, in the history of the world, on the Island of Zanzibar. This event is well documented in any good history of East Africa, including the Cambridge History of East Africa, and The Cambridge History of Africa. Basil Davidson's A History of East and Central Africa to the late 19th Century, and certain chapters on East Africa in his Lost Cities of Africa is a popularization of the subject. There are two old but valuable books on the subject, East Africa and Its Invaders by Reginald Coupland, and the chapters on East Africa in the book, The Colonization of Africa by Alien Races, by Sir Harry Johnston.

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    There's probably better info than what you've provided out there, but you've proved my suspicion-
    Devils account of history. "African-looking Arabs..."

    People moved east across the Red Sea to make Arabs, not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangalino
    There's probably better info than what you've provided out there, but you've proved my suspicion-
    Devils account of history. "African-looking Arabs..."

    People moved east across the Red Sea to make Arabs, not the other way around.
    Yeah, denial is yu best duck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JesusDread
    Yeah, denial is yu best duck!
    Denial? of what? I'm not Arab, nor do I defend Arabs. I like them better than Europeans though.

    What it all boils down to basically, and why people are clowning you like you're stupid, is because Malcolm X told us a long time ago about this religion thing and Black people. We're not persecuted and enslaved because we are or are not Christian, Baptist, Muslim or whatever, it's because we're Black. You, I'm assuming, as a Black man are worried about Muslims when they aren't worried about you. This Crusade thing you have is not for you, it's for who invented it, and those people are more a threat to you than Arabs.
    You can goto downtown Brooklyn right now and meet some Arabs on the FBIs Most Wanted List and they'll sell you some things, even you a Christian.

    You see, Islam respects Jesus and all the other prophets, and Mohammed, and Allah. Christianity, on the other hand, only respects Jesus. Which one is more tolerant?
    Is it tolerance to preach "turn the other cheek" then bless bombs and sanction slavery? At least Islam is tolerant of other faiths, but when the disrespect goes too far, there's action. Jesus was killed, but Mohammed died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph P
    this is y i bun the fya red hot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph P
    I've seen a book @ Barnes and Nobles a few years back filled with pics of lynchings..have you seen or heard of it? I'm going to do a search for it..

    and diyah..i propose you read "2000 seasons" by Ayi Kwei Armah....brush up on your arabic slavery history and stop the romanticizing of blatant rapes by big nosed arab men...

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    I don't know if you've found it, but if its the book I'm thinking of its called "without sanctuary." There used to be a website that had a bunch of the photos, but I can't seem to find it anymore. Maybe discontinued.
    Deffinately an ugly chapter of American history...... come to think of it, the whole of American histroy is an ugly chapter, its an ugly book,
    and people wonder why people on DHR are critical of whitey. go figure

    p.s. thanks uRbaN for posting those photos.

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    Those pics are truly AMAZING! We shall NEVER forget!

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    Quote Originally Posted by qumara
    Those pics are truly AMAZING! We shall NEVER forget!
    seen...but it look like SSjesusdread is using arabl slavery over christian slavery to justify his amnesia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangalino
    There's probably better info than what you've provided out there, but you've proved my suspicion-
    Devils account of history. "African-looking Arabs..."

    People moved east across the Red Sea to make Arabs, not the other way around.
    I agree

    The people who lived in Sumerian City Ur (biblical times, now middle east Iran etc) Abraham's people were black, this is a well known FACT, not white man lies. so how did they get darker? Is this not the location of the river Euphrates same one where civilisation began aswell as the nile...

    illustration by Koran:

    In the islam Hadith Jesus and Moses are decribed as being black, Jesus with curly hair and moses being thin dark and tall, although this is debatable because many muslims dont recognise the Hadiths

    although from the words directly from Allah

    Koran sura 15:

    And when thy Lord said to the angels, ‘Verily, I am creating a mortal from crackling clay of black mud wrought into shape;

    29 And when I have fashioned it, and breathed into it of my spirit, then fall ye down before it adoring.’
    30 And the angels adored all of them together, 31 save Iblis, who refused to be among those who adored.
    32 He said, ‘O Iblis! what ails thee that thou art not among those who adore?’
    33 Said he, ‘I would not adore a mortal whom Thou hast created from crackling clay of black mud wrought into form.’ 34 He said, ‘Then get thee forth therefrom, and, verily, thou art to be pelted! 35 And, verily, the curse is upon thee until the day of judgment.’ 36 Said he, ‘O my Lord! respite me until the day when they shall be raised.’ 37 He said, ‘Then, verily, thou art of the respited 38 until the day of the noted time.’

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    could you rename this thread ''captured africans on slaveship''

    in jamaica a revolution as started in the way we see ourselves and ancestors..we were a captured and enslaved ppl..not slaves..

    slaves are ppl like jesus dread who have volunteered to help the beast
    i am blessed

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    Quote Originally Posted by scwallydem
    could you rename this thread ''captured africans on slaveship''

    in jamaica a revolution as started in the way we see ourselves and ancestors..we were a captured and enslaved ppl..not slaves..

    slaves are ppl like jesus dread who have volunteered to help the beast


    now thats a very strong accusement..

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    Quote Originally Posted by scwallydem
    slaves are ppl like jesus dread who have volunteered to help the beast
    Truth here...trying to justify one group's behavior over the other (in this case, something brutal as slavery) is a condition of mental bondage

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaCice
    The problem many people might have with jesus dread is dat him might seem to be defending white people but if onu have any sense what him a do is NOT EXCUSING THE BATTYMAN ARABS FOR THEIR PART...
    pnp and jlp a do dem ting and both the same color...black men selling crack (matters not how they got it or who gave it to them) to PREGNANT black women all cause he gotta get paid...enough a dis
    Seet deh, only person mi see a use dem brain instead of dem tripe.

    Plain and straight, I am as perturbed as any black man should be with what the whites have done and are still doing to us and condemn racial inequity and bias, whatever form or color it comes in.

    Obviously I don't appreciate or agree with what the Islamic raddicals are doing either and I'll never support or defend them just because the white man may be warring with them. My condemnation of Arab atrocity does not automatically translate to support for Bush or any other oppressive white systems but certain pussy would like to silence my speech by claiming that.

    Gwaan go such unu leaky mada an hop offa my name fassies, mi gat mi own mind and no guy can't tek dat from me. Fiyah fi Hamas and all Jihad defending pedophiles......

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    Those are truly moving pics. To think what our about ancestors went through


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    Quote Originally Posted by scwallydem
    could you rename this thread ''captured africans on slaveship''

    in jamaica a revolution as started in the way we see ourselves and ancestors..we were a captured and enslaved ppl..not slaves..

    slaves are ppl like jesus dread who have volunteered to help the beast
    NO!! they were ''slaves''. Please revise the word slave and compare it to your statement ''we were a captured and enslaved ppl..not slaves..''

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    DHRULE#811 - If you make them think negatively of you, they will never know the truth. It is like leading the enemy to drink wine - wine made of their own blood

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