That song ya bad!
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Jazmine Sullivan - Need You Bad
That song ya bad!
I AM LIVING LIFE
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE LATELY?
Yeah it is a nice song...Paradise posted the samething awhile back
i've always wanted to sample queen of the minstrels.
damn.
but yeah..they going at estelle
she shoulda released "come over" long time.
it probably coulda still do a ting on the market if them release it soon.
big up super dups.
and the bredda cornell campbell who sang on the original "queen of the minstrels" riddim.
god i love this riddim.
futhermore.
why....in the BUMBO FUCK does missy insist on infesting our eardrums with her HORRIBLE PATOIS.
first wyclef on the "you know what it is" track with t.i.
now THIS FUKKERY.
and why is she on the phone while missy is talking in the beginning?
a look missy a look her?
lol
Originally Posted by MELLOHYPE
Twizz and all, here's what I'm predicting will be her next single ... It's called "In love with another man" ...
http://asidebsidemedia.com/blog/?p=2834
This chick's voice is the trrruuuutttthhhhhh *gets goosebumps*.
My bad babes, DHR is a trip.
B l e s s
did yall say this is the "queen majesty" riddim originally done by the Techniques?..i have to listen closer
Its all good
http://asidebsidemedia.com/blog/?p=2834
This chick's voice is the trrruuuutttthhhhhh *gets goosebumps*.
My bad babes, DHR is a trip
B l e s s
I like that song too...her voice is just sooo beautiful
wha diss riddim name
Definately feeling this tune
Queen of the minstrel--cornell campbell eternals
Tune is getting a lot of play, but she is sooooo off key on the reggae part
alot of american singers think that they compliment the track by singing in their common style over reggae riddims...like they doing us some kind of favor....i on the other hand beg to differ.
i woulda like hear estelle over it still.
she knows which and which key to sing in over a proper reggae riddim (ie: "come over" produced by super dups..of black chiney)
yah
why american artists sing on reggae riddims
#1: why do american artists in increasing numbers sing on reggae riddims and try to imitate yardies? because, quiet as it's kept (by lack of reggae airplay on r&b stations these past many years), many american artists love reggae music just as much as anybody else.
#2: it's a compliment to reggae music and Jamaican artists.
#3: the "queen majesty" riddim, immediately recognizable in Jazmine Sullivan's chune, was not from a song originally by the Techniques. the original song is titled "Minstrel and Queen". it was composed by CURTIS MAYFIELD and sung with his group THE IMPRESSIONS on a self-titled 1963 release. (check it out on youtube.)
Curtis Mayfield was an american, a black man, and a descendant of Africa, who sang in his "un-common" soulful style and has been copied and versioned by the likes of the great Dennis Brown -- a jamaican, a black man and a descendant of Africa.
it's time to stop making borders where none really exist (we are all descendants of Africa). and let's open our minds and hearts to each others music in the true spirit and vibration of love, through which reggae music was founded. we're all making music because we love it and hopefully it will make us and others feel irie.
FYI:
"Queen Majesty," is the title given to it by Pat Kelly, who was referred to as "the Curtis Mayfield of Jamaica". Kelly performed the song as a serenade to Queen Elizabeth."
Queen Majesty was recorded by The Techniques in 1967.
there are over a hundred versions. many are listed at:
http://www.jamrid.com/RiddimDetail.php?ID=264
(a website you will greatly enjoy if you're into riddims)
my personal favorite is the Studio 1 version voiced by Cornell Campbell.
from Wikepedia: Every phase of Jamaican music, starting with rocksteady, was profoundly influenced by Curtis Mayfield's body of work. The Techniques, The Uniques, Bob Marley and the Wailers, and many other early vocal groups in Jamaica were deeply influenced by the songwriting, vocal harmonies, and black consciousness that appear as hallmarks on Impressions recordings from the early to mid 1960s. Many of the Wailers early ska recordings are Impressions covers. One of Marley's most well known songs, 'One Love' (Studio 1 - 1965), is in fact a take on (Mayfield's) 'People Get Ready'.
Keep on Movin' performed by The Wailers was written by Curtis Mayfield.
what if the american African, Curtis Mayfield hadn't created those songs that inspired jamaican Africans? would reggae be what it is today? possibly. but maybe not. and why pray tell do so many jamaican artists cover so many american songs? hmmm... maybe working together is better. the more airplay reggae music gets -- regardless of where the artist is from -- the better for the reggae music industry, the life and evolution of reggae music, all reggae artists and reggae lovers.
peel your mind away from the matrix and let love rule.
1Love,
sanctifiable
Very informative! Thank you. I had seen BM&W's "One Love" coupled with "People Get Ready" before, but didn't realize it was inspired by a Curtis Mayfield song.
isnt she british
secondly the song isnt all that, i like it, but it isnt all that
i guess its just refreshing to hear my favourite riddim on the airwaves, dem shoulda just let the riddim run
"bless it and set it..."
Last edited by Avaio; 08-14-2008 at 05:57 AM.
...this riddim is kani's theme...I literally put this riddim on repeat for the WHOLE DAY...hell for dayz...
I shall play theee o-eeginal...(Turn it up...and HEAR the SOUND, POWER and finesss)
just listen straight through and think about her song...
listen to the drum kicks right at the begining...oh my...KRAZEEEEEEEEE
- the keys come in (doing soemthing called "triad?" do'di'do, do'di'do, do'di'do)
-the same time the HORNS steps in an harmonize...just puts the soul and feeling in it...
-right where the horns fades before repeating, the piano does a little dance
-then at the end of that bar the piano does a loud "bdr"...
-an pay special attention to the drums...him well wah bruk out...a dance roun di one drop
- throughout the version the piano continues to accent the baseline...BEAUTIFULL...
and you're gonna supress alla dat fi wah??? the vocals the lyrics is great...but the package is good
thas what I don't like about these R&B acts...an reggae ones too...too much half stepp'n...
bring it foward to sup'm like dis
not to take anything away from Jazmine...she's blessed
but HIT ME WID IT...batta an brooze up...mek mi all haffi tek a day off from work, tuh raas georjy...noah mean... just like that drum kick...budoof, boof'm baf boof...andi song nuh stawt yet...tuh blurrrz neeeeeeek!!!!!!!!
Last edited by kani; 08-14-2008 at 12:42 AM.
Song is alright. Sounds like she's struggling to find her lane over an old time riddim. Don't know what kind of corny adlibs Missy is doing in the background but they don't add anything to the song.
And why every American that do anything musically connected to Caribbean music always gotta put on a Bob Marley shirt? I swear Americans think reggae began and ended with the man.
I think that's Pepa, from Salt and Pepa, not Missy doing the patois
and I can't stand that song anymore...I much rather hear her doing cover for Andre's Prototype
yeh...like dat.
i think i remember hearing this tune in the womb
lol
yea big tune posted it awhile back
all da tune ya big tune when me first hear it - neoen with the mp3 linkage
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i was waiting for someone to come and say it was an impressions songs..
the thing that i didn't notice was that this song has that baseline..SINCE THIS IS A REGGAE SONG IM ASSUMING IT TOOK FROM "QUEEN MAJESTY" by THE TECHNIQUES...and this baseline doesn't sound like it to me.....
im gonna go back and read the thread because i didnt read all of what yall wrote after my last response..
maybe because its because its slower that i just don't hear it....
but for yall saying american artist copy jamaican artist...the poster who posted all the examples is right...i love rocksteady...so many covers of that era....listen to tunes like "sea of love" by the heptones or "the first cut is the deepeest" by norma fraser...all cover tunes....we took from american soul, added our own nice twist to it but then found our own identity after with roots reggae
Sanctifiable, for your first post, you are incorrect about this...
kani's informal musical lesson #1:
The rift. its the backbone of any/every instrumental/version/riddim.
Every instrument including vocals have to compliment the rift or
else it will sound #^%$##.
Because of its uniqueness it is the perfect thing to listen for when identifiying a riddim.
hegzibit Hay('A'):
Listen to the 'ooo's'...listen how Curtis's melody goes up and down in key, along with the oo's as it first down then goes up then ends up down, before he sings the next line...the rift.
hegzibit B:
pay specific attention to the baseline...it mimicks the way the ooz first down then going up then down again in hegzibit hay...(if confused listen @0:44sec or 1:10sec and make comparison...
Thus we can say this is an inspired version of the Curtis and the Impressions...the key the riddim is in and vocals match...however this version is entitled QUEEN MAJESTY...
now, hegzibit see:
Identify the rift; basline; then @0:48sec the oo's; listen how it mimicks the baseline...listen keinly to the key Sullivan's melody is in and how it also goes up and down in key with baseline...
Keynote: TOTALY DIFFERENT FROM hegzibits HAY & B respectively
hegzibit D: the Pat Kelly you quoted
identify the rift; the horns, the baseline, matching the key that the melody of the vocals are in
keynote: THE SAME SH%$ AS hegzibit see
proven point:
JAZMINE SULLIVANS Song/riddim...is NOT FROM THE CURTIS MAYFIELD SONG...BUT FROM THE O-EEEGINAL REGGAE, REGGAE, REGGAE INSTRUMENTAL...known as QUEEN OF THE MINSTEL
Cornell Campbell has two cuts on this version...
Hugh Mundel has a beautifull cut with "King of Israel"...
side note: the riddim played in the bridge of Sullivans song is the same riddim as Groundations riddim cd they came out with and previewed on DHR.
now...if you still clueless...this is fact. %90 of reggae riddims are 'two chords'...the basline goes up/down the first half of the bar then changes for the second half. Other genres seldom do this, so if you listen Queen Majesty the baseline is on one level for a straight bar before changing...so clearlyl thats a riddim with outside influence unlike QUEEN OF THE MINSTREL a traditional one drop Reggae riddim.
People often mistake QUEEN MAJESTY with queen of the minstrel because of the 'naming'...I await any correction...if any...hif...
*turns head* OY SAh... Mellow..ow di raaas dis a ur riddim an naaah defen di ting...mek di man com fowl up di ting...worries ute...sekkle an cool...
I ovaz the point in your post Sanctify, but this right here is clearly a reggae inspiration...
Positive u seet? ... cool, cool
Spliff...dah chune deh bhwaaaad...worthy to put on repeat...
Damn I didn't know this thread turn into a muzic lesson
Anyway, props Kani for setting the bredda straight.
then go quote wikipedia saying every form of jamaican muzic was influenced by curtis mayfield.
First off ska began b4 curtis mayfield buss. And I would love to know how curtis mayfield inspire dancehall
okay...kani did a good job of clearing things up.. and i was right after all...
i don't know all the musical terms and everything so i'll clear it up in a simplistic manner
1. JAZMINE SULLIVAN'S "NEED YOU BAD" DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME BASSLINE(RIDDIM) AS THE TECHNIQUES "QUEEN MAJESTY"
the bassline from Jazmine Sullivan's "need you bad" is taken from cornell campbell's "queen of the minstrels" BUT this tune has been done by a number of Jamaican artist...the bassline in "queen of the minstrels" has more breaks in it than "queen majesty"
2. THE TECHNIQUES "QUEEN MAJESTY" IS A ROCKSTEADY COVER OF AMERICAN SOUL GROUP, THE IMPRESSIONS, "MINSTREL AND QUEEN"!!
like many american soul songs, "minstrel and queen" was covered by the techniques...however..jamaican music is usually defined by "riddims" which deems it ska/rocksteady/reggae....you can call it stealing or whatever you want..lol...but the arrangments is how Jamaican music was derrived..not really the vocals or lyrics(even though "rocksteady" was also defined by its usual soulful harmonies)
3. "QUEEN MAJESTY" AND "QUEEN OF THE MINSTREL" ARE TWO DIFFERENT SONGS!!!
different baselines also...several artist have done "queen majesty" and several have done "queen of the minstrels"...i'm only speaking of Jamaican music here...Pat Kelly was a member of the Techniques so that makes it more complicated..lol
p.s. wiki is not always accurate which is why i don't refer to it
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